谁与王敌

短剧大陆2023

主演:楚霸王

导演:内详

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谁与王敌 剧照 NO.1谁与王敌 剧照 NO.2
更新时间:2024-12-16 04:38

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为了东夏国捕鱼岛的归属权,棒子国国君和众多他国君主正在商议,没想到东瀛国曾夺取过敌将首级的东瀛武圣为此竟亲自出世,东棒国百年第一高手武圣也亲自来到了,这时东夏国老战神来了,看来他们这次是气势汹汹,东瀛国战神挑衅道老战神还有点本事,竟然能从他们十国联手布下的杀阵中活下来,就凭他们两国竟也敢在东夏国放肆,这时直升机上跳下来了一位米国人,没想到东夏国捕鱼岛竟遭到了如此多个国家觊觎,作为东夏战神的楚霸天自然不会放过他们....

 长篇影评

 1 ) 推荐理由

本文首次发表是09年2月左右,刚才在看开卷八分钟的时候想到的自己写的评论,就过来看看,结果发现豆瓣在没有任何理由和通知的情况下将我的评论删掉,在此不再表述心中的情绪,只将评论再帖一次。

给了四星,但不是为这部纪录片说话,说的是片子背后体现的一些东西。
片子07年完成,当时的查韦斯还是个红衣主教一样的人物,把玻利瓦尔当作上师来遵循,他的理念崇高、理想、看起来正确。但就是这么一个人,在去年还是今年年初的红衣主教通过一系列的手段,就像片中说道前政府和‘皮诺切特’那样,修改了条款,改选更张,让自己成为了大帝一样的人物。
在少数几篇评价此片的口吻中,更多的是对美式民主梦的嘲讽和不屑,就像皆露了帝国主义的遮羞布一样的激动。可回过头来,这个标杆是谁确立起来的呢,一个民主的美国——一个对外输出民主思想和暴力的国家,大多数的人都本能的去反对这种态度,一个虚伪的国家,但他的实质谁又看清楚了。在我的主观臆断里,美国是一个宗教集权和专治的国家,它是个总统宣誓手按圣经的国家、一个用美元就要记牢‘我们相信上帝’的国家、一个不许有镰刀斧头团体的国家、一个在国际记者组织中民主与政府廉洁程度不比天朝强到哪的国家,它不配是,也不应该做为‘民主’的替罪羊被鞭尸,美国就是美国,美国和民主是两回事。
但即使不能当作替罪羊,美国宪法仍然在一定程度上保证了你有追求民主的自由,允许你追寻梦想的脚步,把查韦斯看成格瓦拉,也许过了几年之后这些制片人会说‘当时我们被他感人的言语迷惑了、感动了’可谁不是呢?听希特勒的人,听斯大林的人,听某某西的人,在冲动和理想的感召下,谁顾得上做出平静的选择,更有谁能把自己的选择强加于人,试图去理解少数人的选择,让他们拥有自己的选择我觉得才是民主的真谛,美国还是智利都不能代表这个词。
虽然充满可笑,可当有机会10年后重温这部纪录片的时候,一定是非常有趣的事情,就像我们现在再去读那些1945年前的《新华日报》一样有趣和富有黑色幽默。
牢记一点:民主是种理念,作用还要看掌握这种理念的人群。说别人都是白扯,看看自己才是正经事。

 2 ) 很意识形态,简直可作为我国官方的宣传片

也算做到极致了,其中的思想观点与我国官方的观点,就是初高中教科书上写的那些东西,非常类似。
美国人自己的评论是,这个制作人的特点就是用事实伪装观点,甚至用观点代替事实。
建议教育部可组织学生观看这部纪录片

 3 ) 请看查尔斯总统的新闻:

 4 ) just to learn by what they said

The War On Democracy

Guatemala is going to enter a new era
In which there will be prosperity for the people,
together with liberty for the people.

The question is, why are we supporting El Salvador?
No, the question was, why are we killing priests in El Slvardo?
The answer is, we're not, now, you be quiet.
Prisident Christiani is trying to do a job for democracy
and the lelf-wing guerrillas must not take over El Salvador.

(George W Bush) America will not impose our own style of governement on the unwilling,
our goal instead is to help others to find their own voice,
attain their own freedom, and make their own way.

This film is about the struggle of people to free themelves,
from a morden form of slavery.
Richard Nixon, president of the United States,
once said of Latin America,"People don't give a shit about the place,"
He was wrong,
The grand design of the United States as a morden empire,
was drawn on the hopes of an entire continent
known contemptously as "the back yard"
The extraordinary witnesses in this film
describe a world not as American presidents like to see it,
as useful or expendable,
they describe the power of courage and humanity,
among people with next to noghing.
They reclaim noble words like democracy, freedom, liberation, justice,
and in doing so, they're definding the most basic human rights of all of us
in a war being waged against all of us.



THE WAR ON DEMOCRACY
A FILM BY JOHN PILGER


This is Caracas, capital of Venezuela
one of the richest countries in Latin America
thanks to huge deposits of oil
The rich in Venezuela live in leafy suburbs
with names like Country Club
Their spiritual homes are Miami and Washington

The majority live in what are known as barrios
on hillsides in breeze-block houses that defy gravity
In the past these people had been invisible-
excluded from their own soceity
Today they display the confidence of those
who know an extraordinary change has come to their lives

This is Hugo Chavez president of Venezuela the voice of the barrios
Chavez and his supporters have won ten elections in eight years
(cheering)
He's the symbol of an awakening of people powerdriven by great popular movenments that are unique to Latin America

The days of the old bosses and barons are over,That false, elite democracy is over in Venezuela,


It's no surprise that Chavez, with the help of an aggressive media coverage
has become a hate figure in the United States
because what he represents is another way
and a threat to Amecrican domination

(# Rock music)
……

(Speaking Spanish)
……

-Let me ask about you, personally,
I mean, travelling with you for the last couple of days,
I've seen a man who's clearly deeply committed
to what you want for the Venezuelan people,
Could you describe where that came from?
-I was born in a very poor home,a peasant home, so I experienced poverty,
I was a poor child, barefoot,
My father was a teacher at a rural school, and my mother too,
I had a beautiful grandmother, She was Indian, She filled me with love,
My grandmother taught me a lot,
and I learned from her about solidarity with other people,
about sharing the bread even when there's little to eat,
Later,I went into the army, the military academy, and I became a soldier,
And there I found out about Bolivar and started to realise what the truth was,

Simon Bolivar is venerated in Latin America
as the liberator from Spanish colonialism
Bolivar believed that freedom only came
when people united against all invaders no matter their disguise

Today the people of Latin America are again rising up
against an empire built on an extreme form of capitalism
know as the Washington Consensus
Whole countries have been privatized put up for sale
their natural wealth sold to foreign companies, for peanuts
In Venezuela they said "No more"

This is La Vega a barrio of a million people
Mariela Machadoo has lived here most of her life
She knows what it's like to be excluded in her own country

I can give you a very specific example on the maps,
All these hills and houses did not figure-they were shown as green spaces,
That was before Chavez's government,
Before Chavez, we did not feel a part of this society.

This is called a mission
It's a kind of parellel government
designed to bypass the old bureaucracy
and deliver real benefits to ordinary people
This is raw democracy- a triumph of the grass roots

Today they're discussing the dream of owning their own homes for the first time

We don't want the deeds just for their own sake,
More important the deeds themselves
is that we own the property in order to develop our cities,
and obtain the rights that have been denied us for so long,
This is the most important thing,
This is not a matter of getting the deeds and saying,"I'm sorted now, I can go,"
and stop coming to the parish assemblies,
because after the deeds, there are better things to come,
Like the development of our barrios.

Soon after Chavez was elected in 1999 Venezuelans voted on a constitutiong
and this little blue book has become a bestseller ever since


This is one of a chain of supermarkets set up in the barrios
funded by proceeds of oil
Here prices are kept low
and on the back of every rice and soap powder packet
are printed people's rights under the constitution

-Does it really mean somthing to you to see it there?
-Of course, because I didn't know we had rights like everyone else,
but this one, article 23,
tells us about national politics, and this makes us feel included.

Democracy, as I said recently, before our people,
as Lincoln said, has a simple definition- the difficulty is making it a reality,
We are making it a reality-
government of people, by the people and for the people,
A society where people are included and equal, where there is no exclusion,
there is no poverty, where human values reign.

For some of his supporters Chavez has not gone far enough
Familiar obstacles remain from the past
a stifling bureaucracy and widespread corruption
And although poverty has fallen dramatically in recent years, it's far from eradicated

-When you drive in from the airport and Caracas,
the one thing that shocks a first-visitor
are the barrios, the numbers of poor people,
Why is it, in Venezuela, which earns so many billions of dollars in oil money,
that there still is this poverty, in spite of all the changes you've made?
-The poor of Venezuela carry on being poor, yes,
I always say that we don't want to be rich, our aim is not material wealth,
It is to live with dignity, of course to come out of poverty,
and to come out of extreme poverty above all,
and to live, to live with dignity, this is the objective,
not to become millionaires, the Amecrican way of life, no that is stupid.
I'm teling you this because the issue of poverty affects us deeply,
It's most of our daliy struggle.

……
to be continued..

 5 ) 不能因为理想难以达到而放弃理想!

还没有绝对的公平、绝对的自由呢,
  就因为没有绝对的公平,你就不去追求公平,别人欺负你你别去法院告啊?
  就因为没有绝对的自由,你就不去追求自由,你咋不自己去山西找个黑煤窑,然后给别人做奴隶帮别人干活儿,任劳任怨呢???
  追求公平、自由,是人的本性,但绝对意义的公平、自由,只存在于理想里面,现实中,我们只能尽可能的让我们生活的空间多一点公平、自由,谁敢说现在的世界不比1000年前的进步?
  谁敢说1000年后的人们不能够比现在更公平、更自由?
  民主,只是在追求公平、自由的过程中的一个实现手段,我们每个人并不能管理公共事务,只能交给政府去管理,当政府管理的时候,管理者是通过什么途径取得管理权的,这时候我们就涉及到民主了,正因为大范围的绝对意义的民主只存在于理想中(小范围完全可以实现民主,比如一个公司的几个股东在分红的时候,在商议后基本可以做到大家满意),所以通常民主在大范围的政治上是一种利益博弈的结果。我们不会因为公平从来不能完全实现而避而不提公平,不能因为自由不会绝对存在而不去追求自由,同样,我们也不能因为民主总是遇到种种挫折、黑幕、阴谋,而去否定民主本身!
  正如,某个和尚邪淫,你不能说佛法是坏的;某个基督徒做坏事,你就说基督教有问题!

 6 ) 正解

5.9晚上观。
布什:美国不强迫与我们同类型的政府做不情愿的事情。我们的目标是帮助他们找到自己的声音,得到自由走上自己的道路。
主持人:影片讲述的是人们如何通过奋斗,从现代形式的奴隶制度中让自己取得自由。
尼克松说过:“拉美的人民,根本不关心这个地方。”
美国视拉美为自己“后院”。
受访的查韦斯面对镜头说:民主有一个简单的定义,即林肯说的“民有民治民享”。
2002年,美国背后支持的政变,仅两天过去,就以民众和军队的支持推翻了政变政权。
布什曾承诺要让世界免于邪恶,并要领导这个伟大任务,在任何一块大陆上建立自由社会,这是弥天大谎,需要了解历史,被隐瞒被压制的历史。这个历史可以解释,为何西方国家总是知道许多其他非西方国家的罪恶,却浑然不知我们自己干过的坏事。空白的那个字就是帝国。美帝国的存在很少被承认或者在颂扬战争的侵略主义中被掩盖。最狂妄自大的说法是:没有国家能走自己的路,除非那条道路符合美国的利益,帝国和自由毫不相干。他们是邪恶的,他们是征服、偷窃、控制、秘密。
1945年起,美国曾试图推翻50个政府,其中许多是民选政府。在这个过程中,30个国家被武力攻击和轰炸。第一个被攻击的是危地马拉,香蕉之国。
1950年jocobo arbenz 被民选为总统,那个时代的查韦斯。
美国纽约众议院议员JOSE SERRANO“好大的胆子,距离我们才90英里。过于45年,和我们完全不同体制的政府,好大的胆子,不让美国大企业把你买走,继续如此傲慢地说,绝不会屈服于美国,难道不知道我们是谁?”
Duane Clarridge CIA chieg 中情局拉美部门主管(1981-84)
PHILIP AGEE 中情局特工(1957-68 ):中情局不在乎民主,如果这个政府是民选,且与我们合作,当然很好。如果不合作,那么民主对我们没任何意义。

 短评

里面有阿连德自杀前的广播讲话

9分钟前
  • 袁长庚
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“民主”真是一个被用烂了的词,如果民主的“民”真的包括了贫穷的大多数的话,那么美国才是民主最大的敌人

12分钟前
  • Howe
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凶手就是你,真相只有一个

16分钟前
  • tongzhou930
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日光之下,并无新事。

20分钟前
  • Rinn
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1 作为纪录片本身来说有点怂 2 每每听到这片中阿连德总统的最后一段录音 我都有点想哭的冲动 3 记得波拉尼奥的《荒野侦探》里那个委内瑞拉的老作家对两个年轻人说了什么么? “我是一个托派分子 蒂娜赫罗她也是” 然后贝拉诺和利马又去拿了一瓶新酒

23分钟前
  • INsomnia
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深思

26分钟前
  • Lo
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看完这部电影,就别再跟我扯什么普世价值观了

31分钟前
  • alexmaoist
  • 还行

看完这个片子 再回头看看中国 古巴 我们走过来真不容易

35分钟前
  • 蛮子
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3月28號john pilger要在墨爾本的marxist conference裏面作報告, 早已買好票. 非常期待! democracy belongs to the street, the barrios, the fields and the minds of people.

39分钟前
  • 亂室佳人
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第一次看部记录片看到声泪俱下!仿佛置身于黑暗的中世纪~~

44分钟前
  • 桃喜
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看得我感动啊,震撼啊!!媒体确实信不得

45分钟前
  • jan_wl
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民主即我主。呵呵后。

49分钟前
  • 怎会
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没有太多新的东西。倒是能看到媒体与官方口径的合作是美国长期使用的策略。第一次知道委内瑞拉比中国要政治开明……

51分钟前
  • 老常
  • 还行

民主不是完美的

54分钟前
  • 蜗牛
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美国也并非一片圣地...

58分钟前
  • Kashing
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This piece of art shows spirit of another respectful and responsible journalist in our current time.

1小时前
  • 辉夜姬
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还好是英国人拍的 否则肯定有人上来就说全是瞎编的

1小时前
  • 青青
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national security my axx

1小时前
  • sabretooth
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自己的权利要自己去争取,不要等到强权者掠夺走后才开始悔恨。

1小时前
  • 行走的鸡血
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同样一面倒的电影。既然不同意,不看得了,这显然是强盗逻辑。那么不妨这么看,既然同意,干嘛不在里面找支持的例证,既然不同意,何不在里面找反例?只是前提需要抛弃脑中固有的偏见,这很难,但并没有难到比铁杵磨成针的地步

1小时前
  • 稔之
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